How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

What are your thoughts on Italian nationalist poet Gabriele D'Annunzio, who was the subject of the documentary "Fiume o morte!"?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Why is the US going after Canada after all? What is the reason for all this hostility?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

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Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

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Sain (a barber)

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Why do you think Islam oppresses women when Christianity clearly does it more?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Why do men choose to marry a plain Jane woman over a pretty woman?

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Atheists, there is a god up there in heaven and he loves you so much that he sent his son to die the worst death imaginable and then to turn into a zombie all to save you from sin. Why do you reject him?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

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ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Kabir (a weaver)

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

I am like a fish out of water,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

CONCLUSION:

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

then who is there to know what happens without?

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Now here in this verse

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

NOW…

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.